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I read the article in the Washington Post about the young woman who died while the firefighters were trying to extricate her. I don't want to be critical, but I thought about this woman's friends and family reading about her death in this manner. We are not talking about a lot of people, there are only really one or two people who that could of been (described as a very young woman). I don't know if anyone else felt that way. The other think I thought was anyone trying to stablize her medical condition while they were trying to get her out? I don't know how dangerous the situation was, and whether it was even possible, and may
be I watch too many movies, but I didn't think it was suppposed to happen that way.
 

Does anyone notice any safety issues?
For one, no one is heeling the ladders. See anymore?
 

Maybe you both should stop Monday morning quarterbacking this. The question about the young lady having medical attention while extrication was being performed is self evident. The answer is yes. She obviously has injuries that were incompatible with life and the resulting trauma was irreversible.
The ladder question is laughable. This was a very large scale incident and people were just too damn busy to worry about doing things the IFSTA way. They are trained professionals that were doing their jobs and doing them well. Get over yourself and your text book way of doing things. RISK vs. GAIN. Remember that? Calculated risks such as a ladder not being healed to save a life are what we are here for. If your that worried about following ever safety rule your in the wrong profession.
 

Also, if you look at the picture carefully, it looks like the ladders are resting against the rails so there is no need to heel them.
 

mr safety annonymous said "OOOOhhhhh the ladders weren't healed!"

Mr reality annymous says, "PALEASE..shut your blow hole safety annonymous" You sound like an idiot, OOOHHH NNNOOOO WHAT NEXT, somebodies top snap on their bunker coat wasn't snapped? Maybe a full fledged NFPA investigation is due here.

Hurry go to your station for standby, maybe a mulch fire is smoldering in somebodies flower garden. Don't forget to button your top snap and don your scba, and then put on your Newyorker that you have all black and charred from your last live burn in in concrete burn building....OOOOO you brave fireman you, you are my hero.
 

I was there and the monday morning quaterbacks are killing me. Oh my why werent the Fireman able to save that poor person! because sometimes you just cant save anyone!!! That persons injury's were too bad to to any thing for. And the stupid ass tick or career guy from what must be Montgomery or Fairfax....Hey jerk off this is why you all burn houses to the ground and people die on your watch. The fireman on the DCFD are some of the best around we understand that we do what must be done in order for peolpe to have a fighting chance on any thing weather it be a trainwreck, house fire, EMS call. So as my Brother said before get over your self and the text book way of doing things!
 

In reading the comments here, I agree wholeheartedly that the DCFD Firefighters/Paramedics did everything possible to save the lost souls. as far as Ladders raised against Metro Rail cars wihout anyone heeling it, come on now. There are times when Firefighters/Paramedics must make risk chances and even Safety sacrifices to get the job done. Ok the Ladders were against the rail car. The DCFD Firefighters/Paramedics did what anyone with reasonable understanding of what their immediate tasks at hand were above and beyond any expectations. Yes perhaps there weren't every IFSTA or NFPA Standard carried out exact, but who among us can honestly say with any degree of certainty each Response is always
by the book. There is always risk in Firefighting. I am an absolute proponent of Firefighter Safety/Everyone goes Home. In this terrible scenario immediate quick on scene decisions had to be and carried out with the Life Safety and welfare of the innocent souls aboard that train. There are those times when everything a Firefighter has to give and still an innocent soul is lost. What would be the thought if the DCFD/Firefighters relied solely upon written material to do their job? Any criticism or negative comments are totally uncalled for and out of line. Even though 9 innocent souls were lost, there were many more Lives Saved and Rescued. How can anyone among us
question the effort by DCFD Firefighters/Paramedics.

Everyone have a Nice Day