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Why you keep you rigs as clean as possible ... never know when it will be seen all over the world
 

hopefully those medics have been offered critical incident stress debriefing services. I mean, just look how the entire world is in utter shock and dismay over the loss of the King of Pop. peoples lives are litterally collapsing around them, some may not make it through this catastrophy of epic proportions. These medics should be immediately counseled so they do not have life long effects of their interaction with Michael. We all know they tried their best to pump life back into his body. i say thank you for all their efforts. God bless Michael who is now singing in heaven.
 

I hear that hes not really dead. He went into hiding due to the mountain of debt hes in. I hear hes living in Modesto with Elvis. Ya I know, this is cold...but we all know the truth about him.
 

Michael isn't singing in heaven silly, child molesters don't go to heaven...
 

40 Minutes on scene for an arrest espically when the hospital was a 5minute drive. What were the trying to do rebuild his nose.
 

the ACLS protocol treament for cardiac arrest in the field is virtually the same as in the ER, you might as well work them right there , and we know that the survival rate for persons in arrest when we arrive is slim to none anyway
 

"40 Minutes on scene for an arrest espically when the hospital was a 5minute drive. What were the trying to do rebuild his nose".

With cardiac arrest, when you have adequate resources, medicine, and safe working conditions in the field, you don't interrupt your medical intervention until you get a stabilized rhythm.

You either call it in the field (asystole or degrading rhythm), or you continue efforts because you have students onboard, or you do a PR protocol if it is a high visibility/high profile situation.

LtFD Seattle
 

Still no reason for a 40 minute on scene time


Lt Baltimore County FD
 

I have worked a 40 minute code on scene. We field terminate usually, but it's not that unusual. If there is no change in the field, how is it going to be that different in the ER. You run them hot to the ER and you are now risking lives to deliver a dead body. BUT we have driven in Baltimore, so it's all the same there. I understand the indifference. (no offense, only joking).

Paramedic Ohio
 

40 minutes are too long? So are you arguing that they should have transported or called it sooner? What, again, is the hospital going to do differently for a non-traumatic arrest?
 

Obviously the "scoop & Run" EMS protocol from the 1980's is alive and well in the Eastern USA
 

No load and go here. If takes you 40 min to get a pt intubated, shocked and a round of drugs On board then you need to go back to paramedic school. Not that it would have changed this outcome he was probably long gone before the got there.
 

Lets see... MD on scene, ALS unit, ALS engine... hmm.. why fight the cameras, media, and spectators when you don't have to?

I'm pretty sure the drive to UCLA ER was mainly for PR/Family/Media.

40 min working a likely non witnessed arrest? probably overkill.. but hey.. its media/PR/PC world we live in.