Monday, May 26, 2008

 

Cause & sequence of events listed in VA fire that hurt 6; Kentland on the little screen; Arlington in print; NJ coin laundry burns

(Updated at 8:30 PM)

Video of the day: A coin laundry on fire at 2:50 this morning in South Bound Brook, NJ

Six firefighters hurt in Loudoun County fire. Two remain at burn unit. Cause of fire, sequence of events, and construction details have been released. Press release provides hospital status on all and details on volunteers hurt.

For more pictures, video, copy of press release and other details, click here

Smoking materials left on the back deck caused Sunday's fire in Loudoun County, VA that injured six firefighters.

Chief Fire Marshal Keith Brower says the best information on the sequence of events is that the fire rapidly expanded as crews were working on the second floor. Brower tells STATter 911 there was possibly a flashover, followed by a mayday call. It appears, at this point, the roof collapsed after the firefighters got out.

Click the link above for more details from Keith Brower, including confirmation of details on the home's construction.

Two firefighters remain at the MedStar Burn Unit of the Washington Hospital Center. All other firefighters are out of the hospital.

A press release issued just short of 24-hours after the incident occurred, confirms that all four of the firefighters who spent Sunday night in the hospital are career firefighters. There is no information as to their assignments (IAFF Local 3756 reports two from Tower 606 and two from Reserve Engine 6).

The release does say that a volunteer firefighter from Sterling VFC was the one treated and released yesterday. Also, a volunteer from Loudoun Rescue was the person treated at the scene.

At 10:30 this morning, my conversation with the spokesperson for Loudoun County Fire, Rescue and Emergency Management indicates that they will not be releasing the identities of the firefighters, the companies they were assigned to, or any specifics about injuries. Again, it wasn't until 9:00 Sunday night that we were able to get them to confirm there were firefighters in the burn unit.

From sources familiar with the conditions of the firefighters, while there are significant burn injuries to the firefighter seen exiting the second floor in flames (the one in serious condition), there are a lot of indications the PPE did its job and the injuries are somewhat less than initially thought.

Here is a bit of a chilling statistic. In less than seven-months, there have been at least ten firefighters from the Washington area sent to the Medstar Burn Unit with significant injuries. While I know Dr. Jordan and Dr. Jeng like to describe their unit as a mom and pop operation, I have complete confidence they will be able to make their house payments without the additional business from firefighters. Please keep safe.

We should also note it was on the Sunday of Memorial Day Weekend in 1999 that DC Firefighters Louis Matthews and Anthony Phillips were killed at 3146 Cherry Road, NE. That fire almost killed Firefighter Joe Morgan. It was following Joe's story that I first got to meet some of the wonderful staff working at the Medstar Burn Unit.

Friday is the 9th anniversary of that tragic fire. Here is the link to the executive summary of the reconstruction report from Cherry Road.

Also, it turns out the person who took the video of the Loudoun County fire is an old acquaintance of mine. Tony Gil is a jazz singer. His 7-year-old daughter Annabelle had the quote of the day:

I really feel sad for them. I never seen firefighter be injured before. I always think they'd be okay.

Kentland: The trailer

No, not the kind of trailer they once talked about using to house the career EMS crew. This one is like the trailer you see in the movie theater. You know, the coming attractions.

Yes, Kentland is coming to a little screen near you. Later this year it will be part of the series The Battalion that you can view on the web.

I can only guess that the producers figured out what I quickly figured out after launching STATter 911. If you mention Kentland it attracts eyeballs. The eyeballs of those who love them and those hate them. There are a lot on both sides

Kentland VFD reports it is celebrating 13 years as an all-volunteer organization today.

Click here to see the video.

I am curious how the crew from The Battalion got around the new Prince George's County ride-along rules that came out of the burning incident at Riverdale (PGFD Station 807) to spend the time necessary to shoot the webisodes.

Pentagon book is featured

This new book on the 9-11 firefighting efforts at the Pentagon is being featured by Michael Doyle of McClatchy Newspapers. Click here to read his article and see a video that includes radio communications and interviews with Arlington County firefighters. Here's how the article begins:

Remember the Pentagon.

It burned, too, dismembered by the same terrorists who brought down the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center. Circumstances, though, have rendered the Pentagon a Sept. 11 afterthought. It's the place that survived.

At the World Trade Center, 343 New York City firefighters died. At the Pentagon, every firefighter returned home. But not all came back safe and sound. The Arlington County Fire Department subsequently lost 9 percent of its force to health-related retirements.

But still.

The FDNY battalions marched into the World Trade Center and were entombed there. The Arlington crews subdued a different beast, smaller but still lethal, and in their victory they've remained largely anonymous.

Until now.

Six years on, the Arlington firefighters and their compatriots are getting the accounting they deserve.

In "Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11," authors Patrick Creed and Rick Newman detail what happen- ed after American Airlines Flight 77 flew into the nation's military command center at 530 mph, killing 189 people, including the 64 people aboard the jet.

Fire prevention in Singapore

An interesting lesson on fire safety at the work place.
Comments:
Hard to be impressed by firefighters, officers and drivers who do not use their seatbelt. Way to go "Cowboys". How about "safety first" Kentland?
 
Frankly, I'm immediately impressed with the notion that some of the cowboys at Kentland can actually count all the way up to twenty-four.

If the producers wanted to show what a REAL day is for the fire service in Kentland, the camera would be following Ambulance 833 on thirty or forty medical locals, and then, as a side-note, showing a bunch of screaming yahoos lying through their teeth to bid on calls they were not dispatched on, and running three pieces on a handfull of fire calls into other stations first due areas, all the while screwing up the assignment for everyone by rarely taking their assigned position or doing the job they were told to do.

Sorry to inform the Kentland, boys of reality...but GOOD departments are the ones that are respected by the other departments they actually run with, not swooned over by some cult of pie-eyed beaters who live three or four states away.

The Boyz of Kentland need to learn that the fire service is one of those jobs where being fast and being first is not necessarily the same thing as being good, much less being the best.
 
From what I have seen on The Battalion, Kentland is far from alone on those who don't wear seat belts.

Statter
 
Sure are a ton of outcasts in that department! Hero's, no. The brotherhood, whatever union brothers screwing union brothers!
 
Thank you 33 for giving the County the proof they need to issue suspensions for not following General Orders. I thought you guys learned your lesson about getting yourselves caught on video tape.
 
Take a look at the trailer and listen to most of them talk...they are refugee's from places like Pennsylvania and upstate Ney York. Of course they are at the fire station 24/7 365...they got not where else to go or no job to go to.
 
will they be showing how the boys from 33 knock other brothers down, turn there air off, and try to fight with them? They deffinetly donn't deserve it. Hey what about the boys from 33 who were kicked off the dept...these guys give firefighters across the nation a black eye
 
I tell you what, you guys or girls that dog Kentland are the biggest joke in the fire service.

1 Your one of those members that couldn’t make it there.
2 You’re a 1619 union member that forgot where they came from.
3 Or your just one of those members riding fire truck that the only thing you’re good for is to be a wheel chock and the guys from 33 ran circles around you putting your fire out.

Whatever the case may be, stop the hate. Union brothers taking fellow union brothers jobs, please, the county isn’t going to be a full paid department any time soon, SO GET OVER IT. Does anybody tell you, the union members from 1619 to quit your part time jobs because you’re taking union jobs from other workers, NO.? So stop trying to tell someone what they can or can’t do on their days off. For the ones that damn well couldn’t make or jealous of their skills then go out and drill, better yourself to be just as good.

Seat belts, safety, safety, safety, that’s all you hear now days with what you call new age firefighting. Well this isn’t the safest jog there is. Sometimes to get the job done you can be the safest. If that’s all you can worry about is how safe a person can be by wearing his or seatbelt then please take your balls pack them away and go ride a ambulance.

By the way I’m not, nor was I a member of Kentland. I just respect the members for letting their skills as a firefighter do their talking for them and staying up with old school firefighting.
 
Sure, fast and aggressive is not always the way to go and not always the smartest. However, dragging your feet and being the last to show up all the time is nothing to be proud of either.

As someone else said, do all of the union firefighters who work part-time as truck drivers, plumbers, etc. belong to those unions? More than likely not, are they not taking jobs away from those union brothers & sisters?

I would agree on one thing, be careful on what is put on video tape, it is kinda hard to defend yourself against it later.
 
the hate from boys of 33 not men of 33 is because they place there brothers in danger. That is buy doing unsafe things, freelancing and assaulting others on scene just so they can have the glory. If someone is in what they feel is in there way they will knock them down. What real firefighter would ever even consider turning off another brothers air in a house?

Does MFRI teach this in any basic or advanced class?
I donn't think so. It would never be condoned by any fire service proffesionals. I'm very suprised the kentland girls have not killed anyone yet. If they continue there dangerous ways it will unfortunately happen.

Someone with a clue needs to get in there and straighten things out before someone gets killed.
 
Unreal......almost everyone that has posted on here is acting like a complete idiot. Where do you people get all of this (definitely not first hand) information? "Turning off peoples bottles", "endangering lives", "terrible people", "No Jobs", etc., etc.? Obviously 95% of the (internet gossip) posters on this blog either have no idea what kind of good things these firefighters at Kentland do each and everyday or work as a Prince George's County Professional Firefighter that is (brainwashed) represented by the IAFF Local 1619. I will guarantee that none of you have ever set foot in Kentland's Firehouse and/or talked to them, or responded on an emergency with them. When is everyone going to stop all of the bickering and fighting and get along? Life is too damn short to keep this game of career/volunteer up. Sure everyone is always going to be extra proud of their affiliation (career or volunteer) and that is to be commended. That same recognition should not be used to think a person is no good! Just because someone has pride or loves what they accomplish daily. I remember when this job, love (what ever you would like to call it) was fun all of the time. All of this fighting makes it just ridiculous. A lot of the men at Kentland have accomplished very great things. Hell, a lot of lives have been SAVED, both civilian and firefighters by the guys at Kentland that are always labeled as bad, no good S.O.B.'s that are "out of control". If you have never been there (Kentland) or talked to the guys there you will never understand. The guys at Kentland are tired of being blamed for things and stories that have never or will ever happen, ie; the "Bottle turning off", "Cowboys", "Out of Control". Is what they will never be tired of is the "Getting to the scene fast", "proud", "dedicated", "firemen", "Love what they do and are good at it" way of life they lead. I ask all of you to spend more time finding out the real story about the individuals that make-up the team known as Kentland and less time reading all of this and other hype, rumors, etc. Besides, if you can't see what this is all about... most of the "JOBLESS", "PENNSYLVANIA BORN" members of the Kentland VFD are from MARYLAND and are CAREER FIREFIGHTERS in other local jurisdictions! As a matter of fact... 16 of the 21 live-in members are IAFF members. Unless you are blind, you can see why most of the previous post's were placed on here. Hypocritical, "hardcore" union members that are upset.


-Kentland Member and faithful IAFF Member since 1983
 
wow, how fast you forget. must be because of your old age. you obviously forgot about the standish drive incident that was caught on tape, the alton street incident where the bottle was turned off, the crying and moaning done over the ambulance issue. 16 out of the 21 are iaff brothers??? i think you better recount, i dont think they even have 16 live ins anymore. i hope your not going by the propaganda written on their website. what worries the companies around them is if their lines are going to get picked up, if they are gonna get burned by these "cowboys" due to opposing hoselines just so they can say they put the fire out and if a fight is gonna break out insde because they cant put out the fire. i have no problem with being aggressive, just like everyother firefighter. right is right and wrong is wrong. their leadership is the cause of all their problems. the guy in charge trying to keep up a tradition he has only heard about through embelished war stories by old guys who dont even ride anymore. but this little "webisode" stuff is the last thing they needed to help inflate an already overgrown ego. to the guys that have to run with them, stay safe and watch your backs.
 
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