Tuesday, November 20, 2007

 

Looking back 20 years: Thanksgiving Day blaze kills 6 children. An investigator's account of the MD fire. Video from 1987.



Watch the November 27, 1987 story

Watch interviews with those who fought and investigated the fire in 1987

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On Thanksgiving Day, 1987, I was scheduled to work. Having only been at Channel 9 for 2 years, I lacked the seniority to get the day off. Living in Pentagon City, Virginia, I had the scanners on and was taking my time about heading into work on what I hoped would be a slow day. That changed very quickly when PGFD dispatchers put out a call for a house fire, with children trapped, in Seat Pleasant, MD.

My apartment had a pretty good view across the Potomac River. Looking out the balcony and toward Northeast Washington, I could see the smoke even before the firefighters from Seat Pleasant took the short ride to the scene. I called the Channel 9 assignment desk and strongly suggested they send a crew that way. Even if there was no one trapped, a working house fire often is the lead story on a holiday.

But there were people trapped. Listening in, as I drove toward 203 69th Street, it was clear the news was grim. It wasn't long before Prince George's County Fire officials confirmed that 6 children had died.

There were 15 people in James and Annie Mae Williams home at the time of the fire. The couple lost 5 of their grandchildren and a 10-year-old son.

Veteran Channel 9 photographer Kline Mengle (now retired) was the first of many of our people to arrive at the scene. The video above and the still images are mostly Kline's work.

What happened 20-years-ago, inspired a PGFD program that continues today. It is called the Post Incident Neighborhood Intervention Program (PINIP). It was an effort started by Chief Jim Estepp to make sure there are working smoke alarms in every home in Prince George's County. Firefighters go door-to-door after a significant fire and provide the alarms and fire safety tips to neighbors.

Prince George's County officials are planning to talk about the program and the tragic fire at a press conference on Wednesday, at 11:00 a.m., at PGFD Station 38 on Sheriff Road.

It is interesting to note that 17 years after the tragedy, on December 12, 2004, fire almost took another life in the very same block. It was at 205 69th Street, the house next door to the Thanksgiving Day blaze, that Seat Pleasant VFD Captain Joe Johnson became trapped in the basement and suffered critical respiratory burns (the house is exposure B in the 1987 video).

One of those expected at Wednesday's press conference is Wayne McBride, then a police corporal, who spotted the smoke and attempted to rescue the children. After retiring from the Prince George's County Police Department, McBride (seen below) has had a second career helping run the Public Safety Communications Center.


Investigators determined that the fire was started by three children playing with matches in the living room of the home. One of the children died in the blaze. For fire investigators, dealing with a large, extended family, many who barely escaped the fire, it was a challenge making sure the accounts they were hearing were accurate.

Danny Jarboe was PGFD's Commander of Fire Investigations in 1987. Jarboe led the team looking into the cause of the fire. Among the investigators then working for Jarboe was Lawrence Sedgwick, who is currently chief of the department.

In recent emails, Danny Jarboe mentioned how the press played an important role in helping verify the cause of the Seat Pleasant fire. Jarboe has written down his thoughts on that investigation and provided them to STATter 911.

Media Relations a Plus to Fire Investigation

On Thanksgiving morning, 1987, six young children perished in a tragic house fire in Seat Pleasant, Maryland.

In this case, positive media relations became an invaluable asset to Prince George’s County Fire Investigators.

In most cases, photographic evidence used by fire investigators comes from still pictures taken long after a fire begins. Also, twenty years ago, there was not a presence of cell phones equipped with cameras which today can capture video images early in an emergency incident.

On the morning of this tragic incident, news crews had been operating in Washington, D.C. only about a mile from the scene of the Seat Pleasant fire. Responding immediately, camera crews began filming at an early stage as fire fighters were actively engaged in knocking down fire and searching for survivors.

Fire investigators were provided with the uncut, raw video from the TV stations.

As any experienced investigator knows, gathering of witness information, particularly from family members, can be very sensitive and sometimes difficult, especially when the loss of children is involved.

Fire investigators managed to get initial statements from all surviving adults who were in the home and from neighbor witnesses.

Investigators gathered to review the film footage and to discuss the interviews obtained. Comparing witness statements with the live footage provided clear corroboration of some statements and seemed to contradict others.

The overall investigation could easily have been clouded early by speculation as to the fire cause.

1. Thanksgiving Day suggested a strong possibility that cooking might be involved.

2. The weather was cold enough that the mere presence of a kerosene heater led to an early report that it might have been involved.

3. Information surfaced from an outside witness, suggesting that one of the home’s occupants might have been the target of revenge and that the home may have been firebombed.
Some media actually released the possibility of the kerosene heater, stemming from a conversation on scene. This may have actually become a “benefit” to investigators, as everyone would feel more relieved to blame some inanimate object, rather than any form of human error or responsibility.

Using the film footage helped to eliminate several of the above possibilities, coupled with investigators’ findings and witness statements.

As the investigation began to narrow, it was apparent that the focus was back within the grieving family, making our approach extremely delicate before conducting new interviews and before even speaking with the surviving minor children.

Virtually everyone involved in this case held compassion for the family. Despite a desire to reach an early conclusion, there was no pressure from department or county officials to rush and our investigative team was given total support.

One portion of the news video kept coming up in our discussions and eventually became a major piece of the final outcome.

Using the video footage and reviewing all of the written statements, we were able to create a chronological chart, noting the whereabouts of every survivor when first awakened, means of escape, locations of the deceased children and efforts to save at least some of them.

The video clearly contradicted one of the occupants, a family member who we felt was not intentionally misleading the investigation, but was suffering such trauma and remorse for not being able to prevent the tragedy.

It was this piece of evidence which convinced other family members of our need to make contact with the surviving children and thus discover the true facts to close this case.

When the two young survivors described for us where and how the fire first started, the video, statements and on-scene cause & origin investigation were in total agreement.


Comments:
NO VOLUNTEERS FIREMAN INVITED!
http://www.seatpleasantfire.com/
The official press release from the Prince Georges County Fire & EMS Department. Now the fire they refer to was around 0730 hours on November 27th, 1987 (Thanksgiving morning) on 68th Pl just down the street from the firehouse. Engine 82 (The Pirsch) and the Squad (the old squad) responded on the call with 12 volunteers and 1 career person. They arrived first (of course) to find heavy fire showing from every window on all 4 sides with the report of children trapped. Three lines went into operation, firefighters got burned but still advanced, and 6 children were found upstairs dead. A few points of interest have been highlighted in red to point out some issues we have with this event:
There were 12 volunteers on the first arriving pieces that had to deal with the chaos and tragedy first however the county has elected to only invite the career personnel from other stations that worked that day.
 
“NO VOLUNTEERS FIREMAN INVITED!”

First clue as to the mental capacity of the person that wrote this comment. Grow up 8, you sound like a Kentland 33 wannabe “look at me – look at me”
 
This could be true, however, lets be honest with ourselves. If the county only invited volunteers and did not include the career folks who were there, the complaining would be coming from the other side of the fence.

Why not include EVERYONE who responded and did their very best?

OR

Don't invite anyone who was there..
 
If they interview McBride see how many times he blinks. That guy blinks more then anyone I know. How many members from 8 are still around that were even on that fire.
 
Can't we mention that the county has tested thousands of smoke detectors or that we were the first ones nationally to require residential sprinklers. Does it always have to be about kissin tic butt ???Yes, 20 yrs ago you had it and did a fine job. But today your not relavent
 
How can someone say the VOLUNTEERS are not relevant? Are there not stations in PG County that only have career staff in the day? I know for a fact there are many volunteer stations with volunteer staffing with training that exceeds the County CB82 Standard. Most of the Career Firefighters in PG County once they graduate from the academy do not go back and take more classes for professional development. It’s a Pride thing! Volunteers have the heart to do this JOB. The Career staff are the ones who I see complaining all the time about the Volunteers. Look at 1619 when they tried to stop other union members like myself from Volunteering in PG County. YES I AM A SCAB!!

PG County could not afford 100% Career Staffing with NO volunteers. The citizens would not want the TAX Increase! Put in on the referendum and I would be willing be bet that it would NOT pass!!
 
Back in the 80's there would have only been about a hand full of career personnel any where in the County at an given time. All the Companies around "8" would have had a strong Volunteer membership even Company #6 then and little to no career personnel. If the County was so into equal terms across the board with both Volunteer and career then they would have gone out and found those guys and gal's that were their. And even maybe honored them while they were at it.
 
Comeon, people...does EVERYTHING really need to be twisted into "career vs. volunteer" in your minds?

Let's keep things in perspective. Six kids died that morning. As a result, the fire department found the one silver lining to the cloud and used it as a means to reach out to the community. Who cares who received an "official" invitation to the press conference, and who got their feelings hurt because they felt snubbed?

Would someone please send a waaaaambulance to Seat Pleasant (339 would be nice) and pick up the clown from 8 who tried to twist this into some silly "the county hates the volunteers" issue...when the waaaambulance gets there, slap him like Patton on a crying soldier, and tell him it's time to put on his big-girl panties and go remember what this job is really about.

Tell him that the funny thing about "credit" for heroism is, if you have to ask for it, odds are you probably don't deserve it.
 
The county creates these reactions by their actions. If PGFD is truly one combination department, they should act like it.

I know some of the volunteer firefighters who were at this fire. They carry scars (physical and emotional) to this day.

It's not about glory or credit, it's about finding peace, moving on, and making sure a tragedy like this doesn't happen again. Certainly the volunteers should be involved in tht effort.
 
What fine people the volunteer fire service is - on a day of mourning they worry about being invited. All about them, not the people being served. Nice job volunteers - please follow the path of extinction.
 
It was a horrible day for all of us and that is point..it was especially horrific for the family..that should be the focus..I was paid, I was on R-1 and we got there the same time Co 8 did because communications rang the phone and sent us both before the put the assignment..Kudos to them..I only found out about the press conference yesterday..I can't believe I have been gone for 10 years and every one is still fighting over this..
 
leave it to pg13 county firefighters to turn a tragedy like this into a volly vs. fulltimer cry fest.get over yourself fellas your not that great.i wish i had the mirrors that they look into every morning,because then i could see superman too!!!oh well.thanks again for keeping me in stiches you guys are a riot.oh yeah and a discgrace to the fire service.pat maine
 
How many of those crying about this were even members at Seat Pleasant, Capitol heights, or Hillside when this incident occured? It makes me wonder why these crybabies got into the Fire service to begin with- do they have such low self esteem that they constantly need to be told what a good job they are doing? Get over it-the job isn't all about you, it is about serving the public!
 
I see two Seat Pleasant volunteers featured on the Firehouse.com homepage regarding this incident. I don't hear any career members complaining about that.
 
volunteer or career it really shouldn't matter we all fight the beast some more than others some better than others.I don't care if your paid or not you just better know what your doing when you get off that truck and go to work.So don't talk about paid and vollys talk about the 6 kids that died that tragic morning 20 yrs ago.Remember one thing if your good at what you do it shows weither your a volly or paid.
 
I stumbled upon this webpage during a Google search of the fire. I have thought about that tragic fire every Thanksgiving since then. I was shocked to realize it had been 20 years.

I was a PG Police officer at the time. Wayne McBride and I were members of the same squad. To this day, I still remember Wayne’s voice on the police radio, requesting assistance, and talking to a man on the roof of the back porch. I remember responding as fast as I could from Suitland, seeing the column of black smoke rolling upward in the distance, and feeling the despair of being powerless upon arrival. It was immediately obvious, there was no hope for anyone remaining inside.

The video of the fire scene allowed me to look back at the young faces of my co-workers and see the sadness in their hearts on that terrible morning. Everyone there did what they could, but it was not enough and six young lives were lost.

This should not be a used as a forum for political bickering and grandstanding. It should be remembered as a tragedy which could happen again at anytime and anyplace. Be ready for it to happen, but pray that it won’t.
 
IT WAS A SAD DAY FOR THE FAMILY BUT THE NEWS NEED TO KNOW IT WAS NO CHILDREN PLAYING WITH FIRE THAT MORING SO GET THE STORY RIGHT FROM THE FAMILY MEMBER. THANK YOU.
 
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